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Lemons Definitive Vector Guide by lemontea Lemons Definitive Vector Guide by lemontea
This guide has been updated to version TWO.

Click here for deviation. [link]

Click here for online version at my website. [link]

(Description deleted because of DAv2 to DAv3 compatability. This is the original guide for photoshop vectors and all original content is provided in version two. I suggest you head there. Thanks.)
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kitfox4 Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2004
I must say that I still prefer using Illustrator, but I'm glad someone is smart enough to realize the distinction between vectors and rasters and realize that Photoshop can make vectors, it just has to render them as raster...

Regardless, your tutorial is very informative and I love your work.
pdtnc Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2004
Ooooo, maybe I need this :)
cberry240 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2004
great work tea
X-punx-X Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2003
wo0t i needed this

Thanks do0d
charlybarley Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2003
i may just download this and try out vector stuff :D thanks
lemontea Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2003
to anybody who needs it, an alternate, updated copy is located on my website, [link]

Just in case you can't download it :)
gangstapranksta Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2003
hey i tried to show this to my friend but for some reason it wouldnt let me download it again. what happened? how do i do it?
alexmissen Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2003
blah blah fake blah blah i swear some ppl will be so up themselves some day they will dissapear up their own arses - not thats that would be any loss
drumbo Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2003
thank you! very cool indeed :)
sugacube Featured By Owner Aug 30, 2003
thanx a million for this! i'll try it.
vllllllllll Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2003   Artisan Crafter
hey, thanks for the lessons there schoolmaster. ive wanted to learn how to do this sort of stuff for a real long time. thanks again!
crackypipe Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2003
Yeeeeees yeeees, we all agree it's not vectors but rasters, and we all agree with :devmrpumpernikel:, and we all agree that PhotoShop isn't the best program to create vector art, or rasters, if you will, but it looks like vector art, so it's fine with me.

Nice tut.
garyw Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2003
Sweet thanks I'll be checking this out!
hypermind Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2003  Professional Interface Designer
great guide. nice and simple for those who need to learn from scratch!

Greak work and keep it up!
core- Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2003
Tnaks, i really needed this! :) (Smile)
zoom Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2003
cool well explained vector
perrigrin Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2003

nessaja Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2003
that last part


you gave me a good laugh there

great tut! not into vector but I might after this, great work!
levitate Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2003
lol its a great tut.. but.. its to long and i don't like to read :( (Sad)
stephillo Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2003   General Artist
awesome tutorial, man. :3 it helped me a lot! thank you for taking the time to make it!
digifox Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2003
The reason it bothers me that you haven't changed the title to "Lemontea's Definitive Rasters-That-Look-Like-Vectors Guide" (And even that is silly, because not all vector work looks the same. One can create "vector-like work" on paper with the right tools, and a steady hand. Etc.) is because this will perpetuate an incorrect idea/definition in the minds of the uninformed. As it has been said above, rasters are rasters, and vectors are vectors. By knowingly misnaming something, you help to dilute the language. We see proof of that in the comments above. People who are new to the world of computer-based art have seen this guide, and have scampered off to create what they are now calling vectors. More dilution.

Beyond that, I personally cannot understand why people try to create vector work in PhotoShop. Why not use the proper tool for the job? The results are 100% better, and more useable.

Because I see no point in using a raster programme to create vectors, this guide doesn't do much more than any "in progress screen shot" can do. At best, it can give someone idea of where to start on a new illustration.
lemontea Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2004
You know what's funny, version two of this tutorial kept the same name. [link]

Why do you ask? Because it's not raster, but of course! Photoshop vector masks are completely resizable, their DPI can be adjusted, and they have the same adjustable points just like in Illustrator. Photoshop is like Illustrator lite, in all practical uses.

This is a vector, will be a vector, and will stay a vector. If it's not a vector in Photoshop, then how can it be a vector when I convert it to Illustrator? Just because of the final rendering method, it doesn't mean it's not a vector.

So thanks, I just wanted to inform you that I can do everything I need to do with Photoshop... I don't even use Illustrator any more.
drownsoda Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2003
you are so awesome
seriously dude

and lmfao at that fuckin clinton picture

*falls off seat*

kable Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2003
oooh vectors ...i think I'm gonna c....hmmmm anywayz this tut looks damn effin (dats short for fuckin') KOOOL(thats short for cool).

Nice nice nice nice....

ooohh....loook ...butterfly

c0rtex Featured By Owner Jul 22, 2003
Downloading now! Thanks for this =D (Big Grin)
blaspheme8 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2003   Photographer
I made a little something. Tell me what you think? [link]
blaspheme8 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2003   Photographer
I've always wondered how to do these :) (Smile) Thanks dear!
kittykat Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2003
I've been away, and so only saw your lovely little messaage to me today (see below for copy of it) :) (Smile)

" Deviant: *lemontea
Date: Apr 05, 2003, 04:45PM
Vote: No Vote

i would love to see some of the vector art youve done for years on your site. please refrain from hypocritical bs while on da. thank you."

it has relevance here i I pointed out to your little friend at the time, my vector work is done for an employer, They own the copyrite, I am NOT allowed, nor would I WISH to post here things copyrited by the business I work for :p (Lick)

in short lemontea, BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!! grow up dear, or at least refrain from hypocritical bs until you do :) (Smile)
dish Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2003
i don't see why this is THE vector tutorial (when it isn't really a vector one, but i'm not gonna pick on that). i've got a real small tutorial that deals with the same issue as yours. maybe you ought to see it, it's not much but has the same content and idea. it's called "The Bean -o- Lator" and it's between the Tutorials > misc.
nefariax Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2003
great stuff!
always wanted to do this kinda art
thanks alot for the tutesWorship

later;) (Wink) Men in Black
riddlerr Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2003
neat stuff.. i can learn somethin in it..
littlep0serb0y Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2003
hehehehe. Us real vector artists use Illustrator. I'll give this a read once I get home. Note me a link or something so I remember.
angelicanita Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2003
Thank you for the tut. It at least gives me an idea of where to start with doing vectors. I tried doing my own vector using what I learndd from this and it turned out halfway decent. I enjoyed using the pen tool. Now I think i will go try to pirate a copy of Illustrator so I can see what all the raving is about.
dash488 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2003
Very good job *lemontea .
Its just another one of your great creations!
And congrats on the DTF. this really helped out and now i can just link ym friends to think instead of telling them what"vectoring" is.
Good job! +fav
neocpmn Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2003   Photographer
downloaded.... read... attempted.... sucked.... will attempt again! WoWzEr Shocked is this a first for vector tuts? SuPeR+aMaZiNg job!!
glowing Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2003  Hobbyist Photographer
Need to fav this, because I want to try it out when I get home, and if I don't fave it, I won't be able to find it later!!! :) (Smile) This is something I have been wanting to try anyway, and from the sounds of the "positive" remarks, you must have done a GREAT job! So "thanks" in advance! ;) (Wink)
war-fool Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2003  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship
DAMn lemon!! I L O V E YOU MAN ! !
Now i know vector.. this was EASY..
Much easier than when you tried to explan all that crazy stuff in the SB..

Gotta love ya!

Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship Worship
phae Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2003  Hobbyist
downloaded! I do like a good tutorial. I'm gonan go see if'n I'll discover a talent at long last. lol.. doubtful. But good job on taking the time out to make this. :D (Big Grin)
feanaro Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2003
i only like the eye part in this tutorial...

no offence.. but ur vectors could be cleaner...

and i dun think u explained how to use shading and stuff very well....

theres a good vector tutorial on devart somewhere.. the one with jesesica alba...


here comes some crits to help you improve your tutorial...

no offence to your vector art or anything... but you really dont incorporate use of shading into your always just do lines and stuff like that.. now whilst you can do that.. granted it looks good.. on your image.. well it kinda sux.. no offence... and the like lines you've done... its all choppy.. and argh.. your really just gonna havta keep playing with it to get it better...

as a tutorial.. its not bad.. i mean it explains things nicely and easily yeah... but i think you should have like different subheadings.. then explain things in steps... or the stages.. and then have like a comment on why or what...


o and lastly... nice tutorial.. it'll help alot of people.. but ppl.. EXPERIMENTATION... vectors arent that hard to figure out... just do shapes... thas it really....

the eye part is very useful though...
aurae Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2003
LMAO.. as an Illustrator guru I can't help but laugh at the concept of people trying to make vector with photoshop.. its just absurd.

C'mon peeps the pen tool isn't that hard. Dur dur anchor point and control lines.. Sheesh it even has all the photoshop filters built in. That should be reason alone for most noobs to go pirate it.
lemontea Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2004
Well, if you ever return from your leave, I will say that I can do exactly what you do in Illustrator now. I was using the pen tool in photoshop, creating vector masks. For simple things, Photoshop has all you need, plus the ability to resize, change dpi, and edit points just like in Illustrator.
ch405t1c5 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2003   Digital Artist
I dont mean to be the prick that I'm being by not 'being supportive' not being 'positive' and not being...well nice...but it really isn't A.) A vector tutorial (had to say it again), B.) a Good Vexel tutorial, or C.) Hours worth of time. I mean granted, for someone who may not know HTML very well it may have taken 'hours' to complete, and while the art is better than average vexel art, it's...just not much. I mean personally I think Vexel/Vector art like this is crap anyway, as generic as that damn 3ds-max randomizing with a few 'photoshop touchups' of a Light Flare render, so to begin with it's a tutorial about a crappy artform. Granted any crappy artform can come out and do something cool and worth while but you didn't include anything like that in this tutorial.

As far as the HTML coding, it really shouldn't have taken more than an hour AT MOST to code that entire thing. As for the tutorial itself, there's what? 30 pictures in there? Maybe another hour. At what you said it seemed as though it was a weekend project. At quick glance there's 4 pictures on that tutorial, the rest are just 'click back three steps in the PS history and screenshot', or zoom in and screenshot. One your friend did, you didn't work on that.

Again, sorry to be the uncaring bastard who had to come and crush 'some poor kid's' dream (cause everyone on Deviant art gets hurt by words and never sticks and stones, damn emo kids CHEER UP!) of being a great 'vector artist' but that's like saying I crushed a kid's dream of taking his own feces and making art out of it, IT NEEDS TO BE CRUSHED, so as a preemptive call, quit spamming me you damn emo-kids.
celia69 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2003
Nice work
thrawn Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2003  Professional Digital Artist
this is easily the most downright entertaining tutorial i've ever read.
great work :D (Big Grin)
ssjtrunkzz Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2003
Excellent tutorial man!
weke Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2003
i wub you :p (Lick) ;) (Wink)

great job keep it up.
thinsoldier Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2003
--- In response to the ***EDIT at the end of your description, the stuff you did for this tutorial in photoshop IS in fact VECTOR. You can easily export those same vector lines and shape to Illustrator .ai files, only extra work you'll have to do in re-insert the colors into the shapes again. If you don't like illustrator, other vector programs accept Illustrator .ai files.

Also if you have Adobe acrobat distiller you can just file>print to the distiller and it'll create a .pdf file with all the colors intact so you wont have to recolor. Only problem I find with that is it usually turns the path shapes into clipping paths on top of raster images of the color as the fill. So it'll be the same smooth vector shapes, but filled with rasterized color, which increases the file size if it's something big. So sometimes it might still be a good idea to go into the ai file and remove the raster fills, turn the clipping paths into normal paths and refill them with the color.
hexidist Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2003   Interface Designer
Wow, what an awesome, awesomely great tutorial. I especially liked that Bill Clinton in there. Even though it was an example of what NOT to do, I still think it was the best picture there. I found a lot of usefull things in the first part, but I think everybody would agree with me that the SECOND part is definitaly the more usefull part.

-Nick (Hexidist)
kookieater Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2003

im just downloading your tute now...... WOOT!!!!
hmmmmm i think i might stop by your gallery as well... /ponders

Time to haul ass out of here!

oh it loaded.........

Clap very kool tute, thats the way i do most of my cough* vector *cough work as well :D (Big Grin)

do you think you'll do another tute, explaining the other way to do vector in freehand or illustrator?>? /ponders

well you have a nice style of writing these tutes, therefor i think you should :D (Big Grin)

ryath Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2003
thanks, been learning how to do these the hardway, nows it just that litle bit easier :D (Big Grin) yaY! cheers!
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