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Why I'm Here

Sun Jul 22, 2007, 1:43 AM
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I'm enraged right now. It's 3:11 AM, and I'm sitting here screaming at the computer, trying to honestly help some random person on the internet. But I just don't get it.

On Skype tonight, I got a random message from some girl in Australia. Through conversation, she mentioned that she loved to take photos. Being a respectful artist as well, I asked her if she had heard of deviantART.com. She said "not really".

I told this girl about its features and its ability for her to expand her photography skills and learn more about whatever fields she might be interested in, as deviantART is the largest art website out there with a massive community behind it.

And what did I get? "lol" Yes, just a "lol".

I knew what was coming. I could see it from a mile away. After I asked what was "funny", she explained that she didn't need help, that she didn't need anything. She said this: "I do things my way. not some random persons. I choose how I want to live. I choose where I go. I chooose what I take photos of. I dont rely on others to get by. like some people do."

I couldn't help but thinking "what an idiot" the entire time I talked with her. I just can't understand people who turn down the chance to improve themselves or see great art or find inspiration or speak with other artists about things. Why do some people think they're perfect?

I guess I shouldn't be mad. I see this all the time. It's everywhere. Offline and online as well; it's, ironically, even on deviantART. I usually spend my free time after work going through galleries and leaving comments, and invariably I get a "It's fine how it is" or "I meant to do that" type of comment. No, the blurry off centered focus isn't fine how it is -- improve it next time; Yes, you might have meant to use the lens flare filter, but deep in your heart, you knew it was bad -- try other ways to make your photo unique.

Usually, it's a very unknown, average artist (at least going by the stereotypical artworks shown at all times when you click recent deviations) who says these things back to me. However, sometimes it's also the famous artist. An artist who either has 1 million page views, or is a professional, or both. I got a lovely comment from an artist who is regularly on the front page not too long ago that read "no thanks" to my criticism. What is that? Why are you untouchable to feedback from your audience?

Why are people so hostile towards suggestions for help? Who doesn't want help? Why do they want to struggle on their own? I just don't get it.

I have learned so much from deviantART, it's ridiculous. Thanks to deviantART, I learned skills which landed me a very interesting job when I was just 15. deviantART is an incredible resource, and I owe so much to it. Every valid critique that I receive, I have taken note of it and used it to my advantage the best I could; I have progressed greatly from when I started, thanks to the community's support, both through their comments and their art.

deviantART is the world's largest classroom. Open your eyes and you're bound to learn something new!

That is why I'm here.





//lemontea||more.addictive.than.heroin_+''
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:iconno-more-monkeys:
what about the world's most personalized classroom, SA.N?


do you have an account there?
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:iconlemontea:
Huh? No. Never heard of it?
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:iconno-more-monkeys:
eh... well.. its kinda infamous as a haven for DA expatriates, but its a really small close-knit art community. storm-artists.net
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:iconexdevlin:
~exdevlin Aug 1, 2007  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think some people take offense to suggestions, as heartfelt and sincere as they are. I mean, it's very easy to do something, and think it's the best only because you haven't ever conceived of better. I really do abhor it when people are so ignorant.
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=alienkabalien Jul 31, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
Gah it's very annoying, I agree. What I find fustrating is when I see someone giving a helpful critique and people shun it away: I would literally KILL to have a critic commenting on all my work and helping me improve, but keep my style at the same time. It's very hard to do when your the only critique for yourself >_<

Although saying that, I also think type crits are harder to understand then spoken. I can only speak for myself, but because of my dyslexia I sometimes misinterprit what's written: so if someone has given me a decent crit I might take it the wrong way. I think for some people, the explination would need a little more "padding" out then if you were speaking to someone.

I honestly think that without DevArt or any other art community I've been on, I wouldn't be where I am now, and I wouldn't even thought of becoming an animator like I am now (or soon to be). She should of at leat given it a try before knocking it completly.
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Mood: High ~zanenkim Jul 28, 2007  Professional Photographer
I can't agree with you on this because you are fighting a losing battle. You know the old saying, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." This is true with helping those who set themselves up for criticism. Free will is what we have. You can't expect someone to jump at your advisement, good or bad. I'm not saying that what you did was wrong, but what I'm saying is that you care too much. You offer more then your good will to people. Remember, people are fucking assholes. Not only do you know this fact, but your sidelining this variable, and its kicking you in the ass every time shit like this happens. This is kind of like forcing a llama to drink water. The only thing you can really do is except whatever action they choose for themselves. Superman can't save everyone, he can only try. You tried. You did your part now let whatever happens happen.

Remember, for every action. Don't let things like this screw up future events. If you can't change what is to happen then do nothing. See you at the Aug meet Clay.

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:iconlemontea:
Yeah, oh well. Win some lose some. I sort of just expect people to follow whatever I say blindly because I am better than they are, but you know. :P

I tried, that's the point. Just frustrating. Who knows though, they could be right and I could be wrong. We'll see!
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:icondegoe:
~Degoe Jul 26, 2007  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Amazing journal and I agree. I leave comments to improve for people all the time and some just don't want to hear it. I personally would like to receive some more criticism, but good criticism is hard to get by >.< Thus I'd say keep it up even though it isn't respected by everyone, someone will see it and a light will click.
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:iconlemontea:
Yeah, I'd like to think that I've helped more than I've failed with. Who knows! I'm stubborn enough to persist though. :P
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:iconfleetfoot:
~fleetfoot Jul 26, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
Makes me feel both inspired and a little guilty; I've done the "I meant to do that" a few times, but I can definitely see what you describe about, whether in DA or not.. A need to seem perfect, even though you know it's not? In the end even I don't know why people do that.


So thanks. I think a lot of us need to see that.
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